通过5个问答,跟大家共享外媒对于华为Mate60及芯片突破的看法

首先说明下这5个问题的来源:均来自Quora上,围绕华为Mate60引发的一些热门讨论,我从中选择了5个比较有代表性的问答。Quora就不用我多说了,不熟悉的朋友,可以把它看作是我们的知乎就行了。

由于外媒都是纯英文,所以我加了一些机翻中文,大家可以作为辅助阅读。

Q1:Has the launch of the Huawei Mate 60 Pro with a 5G Kirin 9000s processor signified a failure on the part of the US in its trade war against China?

(搭载5G Kirin 9000s处理器的华为Mate 60 Pro的推出是否意味着美国在对中国的贸易战中的失败?)

Answer1↓

The arrogant and ignorant US government does not understand the silent majority of the Chinese people. They thought the sanctions were invincible and the we would succumb to it. But in fact, there are only one word to describe the feeling in the hearts of the silent majority of Chinese people: anger. What I want to say to them only one F words.
傲慢无知的美国政府不理解沉默的大多数中国人民。他们认为制裁是不可战胜的,我们会屈服于它。但其实,用一个词来形容沉默的大多数中国人心中的感受:愤怒。我想对他们说的只有一个F字。
When the sanctions started, all my family members brought a new Huawei mobile phone. What we thought in our hearts was to use the it until the day Huawei successfully broke through the sanctions. If we have to wait a long time for this day, then repair it until the day we win. Originally, I thought the darkness will last for long time , but it turned out to be a breakthrough so soon. I would like to thank Huawei for venting my anger.
制裁开始时,我所有的家人都带来了一部新的华为手机。我们心里想的就是用到华为成功突破制裁的那一天。如果我们必须等待很长时间才能等到这一天,那就修复它,直到我们获胜的那一天。原本以为黑暗会持续很长时间,但结果这么快就突破了。我要感谢华为发泄我的愤怒。

Answer2↓


Q2:How should we evaluate Huawei's latest release, the Mate 60? Does this signify a failure of the United States' technological suppression against Chinese companies such as Huawei?

(我们应该如何评价华为的最新版本Mate 60?这是否意味着美国对华为等中国公司的技术压制失败?)

Answer↓

It’s a milestone. 这是一个里程碑。

Same as war in Ukraine. Propaganda can be effective but it is, in most cases, useless against steel and fire as one is “spiritual” another material. So propaganda can’t bring back 400,000 dead Ukraineans.
与乌克兰战争相同。宣传可能是有效的,但在大多数情况下,它对钢铁和火毫无用处,因为一种是“精神上的”另一种材料。因此,宣传无法带回 400,000 名死去的乌克兰人。

China has the greatest manufacturing capability in the history of mankind, produces the largest number of engineers every year in the history of mankind. And there is no tribalism to pide and conquer there. It will thus just simply be a matter of time for it to work out something.
中国拥有人类历史上最强的制造能力,每年培养的工程师数量在人类历史上是最多的。那里没有可以分而治之的部落主义。因此,它解决一些问题只是时间问题。

Everything against it, if not really targeting at those key drivers, can only be tactical than strategical to decelerate than stop the process. Sanction is clearly one of them that the war has been lost on day one no matter what you do.
一切反对它的东西,如果不是真正针对那些关键驱动因素,只能是战术上的,而不是战略上的减速而不是停止这一进程。制裁显然是其中之一,无论你做什么,战争在第一天就输了。

And I will say the same for India in the future, provided that it can get rid of tribalism which is however not an easy task. But provided it does, it will go sky high, as well.
我将来也会对印度说同样的话,只要它能够摆脱部落主义,但这不是一件容易的事。但只要它这样做,它也会飞得很高。


Q3:Huawei Mate 60 Pro with 7nm have been on sale in China and in the world with 100% China-made components, software, chips & operating systems. Why is the US' sanction against Huawei making Huawei smart phones more independent and successful globally?

(华为Mate 60 Pro采用7nm,已在中国和全球销售,100%中国制造的组件,软件,芯片和操作系统。为什么美国对华为的制裁使华为智能手机在全球范围内更加独立和成功?)

Answer↓

It’s why the US is panicking, because China is a competitor which the US has never seen.
这就是美国恐慌的原因,因为中国是美国从未见过的竞争对手。

Un like countries such as India, China has the ability and determination to advance;
联合国像印度等国家一样,中国有能力和决心前进;

on the other hand, unlike countries such as EU countries and Japan, China has a huge internal market to protect its companies from being sanctioned.
另一方面,与欧盟国家和日本等国家不同,中国拥有巨大的内部市场来保护其公司免受制裁。


In a test video on Bilibili, they confirmed that the Mate 60 Pro is powered by the New Kirin 9000S, which was made in week 35 of 2020, in mainland China.
在哔哩哔哩的测试视频中,他们确认Mate 60 Pro由2020年第35周于中国大陆年制造的新型麒麟9000S提供动力。

But the CPU is not the main character in Mate 60 Pro, since Kirin 9000S is only about the same as Snapdragon 888, the top performance 2 years ago.
但CPU并不是Mate 60 Pro的主角,因为麒麟9000S只和2年前的顶级性能骁龙888差不多。

It's the BAW filter, or Bulk Acoustic Wave Filter. It was the key component for 5G communication, and the only part which the US could sanction Huawei’s cellphones. For a while, all Huawei cellphones used to have only 4G.
它是BAW滤波器,或体声波滤波器。它是5G通信的关键组成部分,也是美国唯一可以制裁华为手机的部分。有一段时间,所有华为手机过去只有4G。

Silex Microsystems made a breakthough in BAW filter, and finally found the last piece of the puzzle.
Silex Microsystems在BAW滤波器方面取得了突破,最终找到了最后一块拼图。

Designed by Huawei, Silex, and other Chinese companies, made by SMIC.
由华为、Silex等中国公司设计,中芯国际制造。

U.S. Department of Commerce must be disappointed.
美国商务部一定很失望。

I guess it’s why Mate 60 Pro made a sudden appearence even without a press conference or any other event. It just quietly appeared in Huawei Stores and Huawei Online Shop.
我想这就是为什么Mate 60 Pro在没有新闻发布会或任何其他活动的情况下突然出现的原因。它只是悄悄地出现在华为商店和华为在线商店中。

The one who being the main drive of this sanction against Chinese companies is in China. Gina Raimondo is one of the most aggressive person in Biden administration to push a harder stance against China. She’s one of the most extreme eagles, if not the most extreme one.
对中国公司实施制裁的主要推动力是中国。吉娜·雷蒙多(Gina Raimondo)是拜登政府中最激进的人之一,对中国采取更强硬的立场。她是最极端的鹰之一,如果不是最极端的鹰。

Just like how Robert Gates was so sure that China wouldn’t be able to have a stealth fighter, China did the first test-flight during his visit in China in 2011.
就像罗伯特·盖茨(Robert Gates)如此确信中国不可能拥有隐形战斗机一样,中国在2011年访问中国期间进行了首次试飞。


It’s been 1041 days since Huawei released its last Kirin 9000.
距离华为发布最后一款麒麟9000已经过去了1041天。

It’s been 1566 days since Huawei being included into the entity list of US government.
自华为被列入美国政府实体名单以来,已经过去了1566天。

(Quora uses the usual excuse for its political manipulation, wrong language. As if my answer is in Chinese.
(Quora使用通常的政治操纵借口,错误的语言。好像我的回答是中文的。

There can be any language appearing in a answer. However, when the answer is not in favor of the US government guildline, languages other than English will be the excuse of censorship.
答案中可以出现任何语言。但是,当答案不利于美国政府行会时,英语以外的语言将成为审查制度的借口。

I will try appeal after self-censored.)
我会在自我审查后尝试上诉。

With the massive domestic market, China was able to maintain Huawei’s operation. Now Chinese government and state-owned companies should choose only domestic computers, preferablly Huawei.
凭借庞大的国内市场,中国能够维持华为的运营。现在中国政府和国有企业应该只选择国产电脑,最好是华为。


The US sanctions Huawei not because of its cellphones, but communication equipments.
美国制裁华为不是因为它的手机,而是因为通信设备。

The world was going to choose Huawei to deploy their 5G networks, and this would be a problem for the US government to spy other countries.
世界将选择华为部署他们的5G网络,这将是美国政府监视其他国家的问题。

Therefore, even with no backdoor found, the UK eventually banned Huawei for security reasons and choose US companies which does have backdoors in their products.
因此,即使没有找到后门,英国最终出于安全原因禁止了华为,并选择了产品中确实有后门的美国公司。

The UK cannot say no to the US, because any British politician would want to stay longer in the politics club.
英国不能对美国说不,因为任何英国政治家都希望在政治俱乐部呆得更久。


Q4:Why is America so scared of the Chinese Huawei company, and why can't America let China lead the 5G technology?

(为什么美国如此害怕中国的华为公司,为什么美国不能让中国领导5G技术?)

Answer↓

One thing is that the US is a member of the five eyes intelligence gathering alliance. If Huawei 5g is implemented in their countries they will no longer be able to spy on their populations via the network, so the five eyes becomes ineffective.
一件事是,美国是五眼情报收集联盟的成员。如果华为5G在他们的国家实施,他们将不再能够通过网络监视他们的人口,因此五眼变得无效。

At the moment the 4g network has backdoors that allow the five eyes to spy on each other’s population, solely (they say) to access terrorist cells communications and make us all safer. Huawei has refused to compromise the security of their 5g.
目前,4G网络有后门,允许五只眼睛监视彼此的人口,只是(他们说)访问恐怖组织的通信,让我们都更安全。华为拒绝损害其5G的安全性。

So it is about security, but because it’s too secure, not too insecure.
所以这是关于安全性的,但因为它太安全了,而不是太不安全。


Q5:Is China leading in 5G network, if so why?

(中国在5G网络方面处于领先地位,如果是,为什么?)

Answer↓

Just like Andrew Curry I think I want to take this question from a different perspective. Most of the answers have already covered just how far ahead Huawei and China are in 5G compared to everybody else in the world anyway.
就像安德鲁·库里一样,我想我想从不同的角度来回答这个问题。大多数答案已经涵盖了华为和中国在5G方面与世界上其他所有国家相比有多远。

Earlier today US President Trump demanded that American tech companies invent 6G and build it for America. Donald Trump wants 6G in America, presumably because it's one more than 5G

While the western internet took a collective sigh and shook their heads at what looks like Trump saying another silly thing - Trump asks 'Global Waming' to come back.

- what he meant was that he wanted America to get started on researching 6G.
今天早些时候,美国总统特朗普要求美国科技公司发明6G并为美国建造。唐纳德·特朗普希望在美国使用6G,大概是因为它比5G多一个 而西方互联网则集体叹息,对特朗普似乎说了另一件愚蠢的话摇了摇头——特朗普要求“全球Waming”回来。他的意思是,他希望美国开始研究6G。

But the real story isn’t how silly of him to hope America could get a leg up on the competition by starting 6G R&D. The story is actually this quote from Huawei’s Founder.
但真实的故事并不是他多么愚蠢地希望美国能够通过启动6G研发在竞争中占据一席之地。这个故事其实就是华为创始人的这句话。

In a recent interview founder Ren Zhengfei said
在最近的一次采访中,创始人任正非说。

Now we are rolling out 5G and soon we'll welcome 6G
现在我们正在推出5G,很快我们将迎来6G.

And it was after hearing him say that that Trump made his tweet. So knowing that Huawei is about one year ahead of its competitors in 5G and is virtually the only one capable of providing 5G equipment right now how soon do they expect to welcome 6G?
正是在听到他这么说之后,特朗普才发了推文。因此,知道华为在5G方面领先竞争对手约一年,并且几乎是唯一能够提供5G设备的公司,他们预计多久会欢迎6G?

It turns out not only is Trump a little late in demanding 6G research start but he might be too late to catch up too. China’s been researching 6G as early as 2017 and have already made plenty of progress. And it isn’t planning on going all the way alone either. If we look on the map at countries banning or partially banning Huawei from setting up 5G we might notice a few major countries missing.
事实证明,特朗普不仅要求6G研究开始有点晚,而且他可能也为时已晚。中国早在2017年就已经在研究6G,并且已经取得了很大进展。它也不打算独自走下去。如果我们在地图上查看禁止或部分禁止华为建立5G的国家,我们可能会注意到缺少几个主要国家。

As of today the UK and Germany have suggested that they aren’t planning to block Huawei at all. But countries like Italy and Austria haven’t said anything at all. That’s because China’s 6G development extended to these countries over the last few years created a new system to go a step further than 5G. We know that 5G is going to connect the world like never before. Massive machine communication and the smart city are two things that are under way once 5G has been deployed.
截至今天,英国和德国已经表示,他们根本不打算阻止华为。但像意大利和奥地利这样的国家根本没有说什么。这是因为中国的6G发展在过去几年中扩展到这些国家,创造了一个新的系统,比5G更进一步。我们知道5G将以前所未有的方式连接世界。大规模机器通信和智能城市是部署5G后正在进行的两件事。

Just like with 5G itself these benefits of 5G were already started a long time ago by China too and China is much further ahead in smart home and smart city development than anybody else. But IoT and things like self driving cars are weak to network hacks. Chinese IoT and what they call AIoT have gone a long way to making hacks very difficult to pull on their devices. 6G aims to make that impossible.
就像5G本身一样,中国很久以前就已经开始了5G的这些好处,中国在智能家居和智慧城市发展方面比其他任何人都领先得多。但物联网和自动驾驶汽车之类的东西对网络黑客攻击很弱。中国的物联网和他们所谓的AIoT已经走了很长一段路,使黑客很难在他们的设备上拉动。6G旨在使这成为不可能。

Bottom line is that not only is China ahead in 5G but it is also already ahead in 6G before anybody else has even started looking into it.
最重要的是,中国不仅在5G方面处于领先地位,而且在其他人开始研究6G之前,它已经在6G方面处于领先地位。

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